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Is VRT ticket #2014070110000717 still valid for these three files?[edit]

These deletion requests here:

1. File:President Yoon Suk Yeol and first Lady Kim Keon Hee depart to Madrid, Spain for Nato Summit at Seoul Air Base (3).jpg.

2. File:President_Yoon_Suk_Yeol_and_first_Lady_Kim_Keon_Hee_depart_to_Madrid,_Spain_for_Nato_Summit_at_Seoul_Air_Base_(2).jpg

3. File:President Yoon Suk Yeol and first Lady Kim Keon Hee depart to Madrid, Spain for Nato Summit at Seoul Air Base (1).jpg

All state that the "Reason for the nomination: CC-BY-NC-SA license on Flickr, the VRT ticket is just a verification for those images marked with CC-BY-SA"


These three Flickr links all have the exact same the license history below:

1. https://www.flickr.com/photos/koreanet/52176290159/

2. https://www.flickr.com/photos/koreanet/52176042741/

3. https://www.flickr.com/photos/koreanet/52175009767/in/photostream/


"License History

Note: There is no license history before July 17, 2008"

Date January 16, 2023 at 10:46:41 PM PST
Old License Attribution-ShareAlike (CC BY-SA 2.0)
New License Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike (CC BY-NC-SA 2.0)

This file uploaded on 00:51, 1 July 2022, which is before the license changed on January 16, 2023.

So, is this VRT ticket #2014070110000717 still valid?

Thanks, -- Ooligan (talk) 23:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Jarekt, Please, see the link below, where the @JarektBot added the same VRT ticket number to the three files above.
Can you answer my question above?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3APresident_Yoon_Suk_Yeol_and_first_Lady_Kim_Keon_Hee_depart_to_Madrid%2C_Spain_for_Nato_Summit_at_Seoul_Air_Base_%281%29.jpg&diff=712122705&oldid=677465007
Thanks, -- Ooligan (talk) 07:00, 17 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ooligan, See my response at Commons:Deletion requests/File:President Yoon Suk Yeol and first Lady Kim Keon Hee depart to Madrid, Spain for Nato Summit at Seoul Air Base (3).jpg. VRT ticket #2014070110000717 is valid as a storage of background info and confidential communication for files using CC-BY-SA on flickr but should not be used for files using CC-BY-NC-SA on flickr. --Jarekt (talk) 00:25, 18 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jarekt. On July 19th You wrote,
"RodRabelo7, Than you for your help here. I have never seen License history on flickr. I have verified that the license of those files was correct (CC-BY-SA) at the time of the upload..."
However, I had written on July 15th (see above) about information from these three files linked Flickr pages.
---Under the heading, "License History"
---that the "Old License" was "Attribution-ShareAlike (CC BY-SA 2.0)"
---and that the "New License" is "Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike (CC BY-NC-SA 2.0)"
I further wrote,
"This file uploaded on 00:51, 1 July 2022, which is before the license changed on January 16, 2023."
In your second response you wrote,
"Ooligan the irrevocable license rule only applies to files uploaded by the copyright holders and the File:President Yoon Suk Yeol and first Lady Kim Keon Hee depart to Madrid, Spain for Nato Summit at Seoul Air Base (3).jpg was not. I also do not see any evidence that it was CC-BY-SA at the time of the upload. So let me clarify my position: Delete for this and all the files using Korea.net license unless the files have Flickrreview (or similar template) verifying that they were marked CC-BY-SA on flicker at some point. If someone wants to contact https://www.flickr.com/photos/koreanet/ and ask them to change the license we might be able to save them." (brackets removed, emphasis added)
I thought I was writing clearly enough, but another commenter clarified the Flickr license history information. I want to note here on this page that you kept these 3 files. Thank you, -- Ooligan (talk) 07:01, 2 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ooligan I am sorry for dropping off from the discussion. The files are fine since they were uploded under valid license. I closed deletion request and added additional info to the files. --Jarekt (talk) 23:38, 3 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

file check[edit]

I wish you all good health. please, I ask you to check the file and confirm the license. Sincerely File:Skuld. Скульд.jpg RagdayKolovrat (talk) 08:14, 11 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Last ticket entry from yesterday. The reason to hurry is…? --Krd 13:44, 11 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
which ticket? I didn't understand the question at all RagdayKolovrat (talk) 16:22, 11 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Совсем не понял ответа на поставленный вопрос RagdayKolovrat (talk) 16:25, 11 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(using Google translate): @RagdayKolovrat: Почему это срочно? Это совсем недавно. Есть отставание. - Jmabel ! talk 17:49, 11 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Суть сказаного? Набор фраз RagdayKolovrat (talk) 18:10, 11 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Now I'm the one who doesn't understand. (Теперь я тот, кто не понимает.) - Jmabel ! talk 19:07, 11 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
exactly. just check please, otherwise we don’t understand what we will agree on RagdayKolovrat (talk) 19:14, 11 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Who will confirm the file for a license? RagdayKolovrat (talk) 22:40, 18 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Checking authorisation for 2015122310000978[edit]

Hello All, I requested the deletion of files representing a magazine uploaded by @NicholasReedy: , but at the end, I saw that one file had an OTSR ticket attached to it. Does it include all the page of the magazine uploaded or only the one with the OTSR ticket?

The deletion request: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Xodus_Media_Kit.JPG

The OTSR: https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketID=2015122310000978

The page with the OTSR: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Xodus_Media_Kit.JPG

Merci par avance pour votre aide. CoffeeEngineer (talk) 09:32, 13 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

productionsrhizome.org[edit]

Hi, VRT will receive (or may have alresdy received today) an email from the address productionsrhizome.org, with an attachment in French. Just to be sure that VRT knows what it is about and it doesn't get lost, it relates to the files in the category Category:Tapis rouge des arts littéraires. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:47, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Asclepias, thanks for the info, I tried looking for Category:Tapis rouge des arts littéraires on the VRT and it didn't get me any lists. If the permissions-release mentions link to this category, it would make the work of VRT agents easy. Best, ─ The Aafī (talk) 18:23, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, It may refer to the user account who uploaded the files: User:FrederiqueDube. (N.B.: I know there might be a few things to clarify. It's a bit complex. I opened a discussion at Commons:Village pump/Copyright#"Photobooth" portraits about the fine points of how to analyze the copyright situation. For now the idea was to obtain for the VRT archives at least this communication from the source of the photos. Before a follow-up, it could be good to wait a few days to know the opinions at VP/C, as that may affect how the matter can be managed.) -- Asclepias (talk) 18:41, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/Rza Talibov[edit]

A DR has been filed that appears to assert that Ticket:2022052110004218 was processed incorrectly. It would probably be helpful if any VRT agents familiar with this case could chime in to provide clarity and/or evaluate if the challenge to the ticket's closure is persuasive.

Pinging Krd, who added the permission confirmation to the Commons page. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 13:43, 17 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I still think the ticket is processed correctly, but I admit that there may be different opinions based of different perspective. Having this reviewed by another VRT member is welcome to me. Krd 05:56, 24 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

please confirm the license[edit]

I wish you all good health. please confirm the license. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Skuld._%D0%A1%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B4.jpg How long can wait until the file is deleted again? The file has been placed for a long time, but there are no actions. RagdayKolovrat (talk) 10:33, 19 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • I'm not on the VRT, but presumably this is either because an adequate permission form has not been received or (due to backlog) is not yet processed. When was it sent? - Jmabel ! talk 14:30, 19 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    it was sent three weeks ago RagdayKolovrat (talk) 15:02, 19 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    where do I need to write it then? RagdayKolovrat (talk) 15:03, 19 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Lee Sang-ho.jpg and ticket #2014070110000717.[edit]

This file came up while I was doing my daily check of Flickr files that need license reviews. The Flickr source is licensed CC-BY-NC-SA 2.0 at https://www.flickr.com/photos/koreanet/39760227514, but there is a Korea.net license template with a VRT template on the file that give it a CC-BY-SA 2.0 license. The VRT Template links to https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketNumber=2014070110000717 I'm told that this ticket has red flags and is a cluster but I want to try to see if I can resolve the contradictions on this file before I file a deletion request or request a F4 speedy. Abzeronow (talk) 16:58, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Abzeronow: The ticket relates as far as I can understand to a single image on Flickr which has been relicensed to CCBYSA by Korea.net on request: https://www.flickr.com/photos/koreanet/14518090226/. This photo is available on Commons as File:NMK Network Fellowship Program 14 (14518090226).jpg. There may have been intentions to ask for more free licensing to Korea.net in 2014/2015, as template {{Korea.net}} seems to be some general format. This template has been made by User:Russavia, now banned. In one of the emails of the tickets, reference is made to this discussion. Imho it would be the safe route to delete the template and all images where it is used per COM:PRP (after checking the flickr source), except the mentioned image, and to mention the ticket only on that image. Perhaps User:-revi can comment before final decision on this, because they were involved in the template and speak Korean. The VRT agent at the time cannot be contacted any more, it seems. Regards, Ellywa (talk) 19:30, 26 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, Ellywa. For now, I'll just start a DR on this one image. I'll wait for -revi to comment before I take any action on the template itself. Abzeronow (talk) 16:14, 27 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(Currently not at home and will need until weekend to thoroughly read stuff. Ping me over the usertalk page if I haven't commented by Monday.) — regards, Revi 05:51, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User:AlbertHog license agreement sent, but not processed. Files deleted…[edit]

Couple of files I uploaded on Aug19 were marked as missing license. The email with author's permission (in Russian) was sent by himself on 22 Aug (to the Rus team). Now I find out my files have already been deleted…Can you please restore them? Hoping for your quick reaction. Full list:

Best regards, AlbertHog (talk) 17:47, 27 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

For anyone reviewing this case, the ticket number is 2023081110007441 and is in the Russian queue. Best, ─ The Aafī (talk) 16:31, 28 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@TheAafi This page doesn’t work for me: I can't log in with my WP account. Could you help me understand what's wrong here? AlbertHog (talk) 14:33, 3 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@AlbertHog, VRT cannot be accessed by everyone. It is private and confidential and only volunteers with access to it can login there. Best, ─ The Aafī (talk) 14:58, 3 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ticket:2023082810004592[edit]

Regarding this ticket, I just need there to be a custom template created or this ticket. I can then use this template to import the images to the Wikimedia Commons.

As there seems to be some confusion in the e-mail, I'd like to clear up that after they give permission for their website that I can then import it using the template made from this electronic letter exchange. This could be something like "{{ChinaZeug.de Münzen}}" that I can tag the uploads with.

This template should combine "{{AccreditationTicket}}" with a Creative Commons license, making it easier for me to tag them in the uploads. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 07:22, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Basically this:

{{AccreditationTicket |id= 2023082810004592}} {{Cc-by-sa-4.0}} {{In category|Images of coins from ChinaZeug.de}}

I'll create the category and do the uploads myself, you can see their e-mail address on this page (Archive) to see that it's in fact them. I simply cannot create the template as I'm not a VRTS volunteer. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 07:33, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have answered within the ticket. Mussklprozz (talk) 08:08, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Mussklprozz, I'll reply here because it's more open. The reason I prefer a custom template is because it's a time saving measure. I would have to manually tag every individual upload with the same category (which would be automatically done with the template) and if I accidentally forget it someone patrolling new uploads will think "there is no free license on this website" and they'll tag it for deletion wasting patroller and admin time. A simple template saves more time for everyone involved.
I've already made the outline above and I'll make the categories and do the uploads. All coin images are confined to a specific domain of the website "ChinaZeug.de/muenzen" and are easily found that way. The only job of the VRTS involved is simply to verify that the content matches the ticket.
Also note that all coin images on the website have the same distinctive background. — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 08:38, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi @Donald Trung, a ticket is open to any VRT member, thus pretty open to those whom it concerns. – Anyway, if you go and uplaod the picures, i get them from your contribution list and can group them into a category in one fell swoop. Mussklprozz (talk) 09:21, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Mussklprozz, I'll manually add them to the category myself and I'll tag the category with the permission ticket then, doing the VRT thing for every individual upload just seems like too much work. Especially when easier options exist. Mostly because the list of images to upload is quite long and I'm not planning on doing everything in a single go. -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 16:57, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Donald Trung, I think there are several misunderstandings: 1) Permission badges apply to images, not to categories. Each image needs a badge itself. Tagging the whole category alone is not sufficient. 2) Only VRT agents may issue permission badges. Are you a VRT agent? 3) Adding the category and the permission tag to all images is done within minutes by me (or any other VRT agent), since we have a batch tool that supports such tasks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mussklprozz (talk • contribs) 13:50, 30 August 2023‎ (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Mussklprozz, I suppose they are confused with a customised template that could be added on all of the relevant files by their uploader (however created only by a VRT agent) - perhaps for images that are so many - and the permission for them being stored in just one ticket - or that there keep relevant files coming and coming that adding permissions tag becomes a tedious job. For instance, a recent case with @Wehwalt, and the template was made by Ruthven, which can be seen at {{CC-HA}}. Templates also "auto-categorise" files on which they are included. ─ The Aafī (talk) 18:18, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Interestingly, this was also related to coins. ─ The Aafī (talk) 18:23, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks @TheAafi, I have myself created several such customized templates for institutional websites (museums and archives) in Spain and Germany. @Donald wrote in the ticket that he would like to have one for the images in question. However I am reluctant to create one under the given circumstances here, given a private website, a private user and a collection which can be uploaded all at once. The template would have to be created, tested, approved by the rights holder – altogehter more work for the VRT agent in charge than issuing the permission badge using the batch tool. Furthermore, there is a certain risk with customized template: imo we have no efficient control that it is only used by the person who is entitled to use it. With institutional users, that risk is still there, but mitigated by the fact that there are professionals who have an eye on their categories. Cheers, Mussklprozz (talk) 18:40, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Right. There is some difference. ─ The Aafī (talk) 18:45, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I asked them to simply put a CC notice on their website. So I'm marking this section as "Resolved". --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 08:03, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Checkmark This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 08:03, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ticket:2018052510002355[edit]

Hi, File:Willi Gohl Conducting the 640 massed uni choir at the United Nations.jpg came up for deletion review along with several other images and the uploader has provided indications that they were uploaded with permission. (See: Commons:Deletion requests/Files found with 154745016@N06) This ticket number from 2018 is the only one I see connected with any of the files. Is it possible to determine what's happened here and if any of the other images in question have been vetted per the information provided by the uploader? —Tcr25 (talk) 15:15, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Tcr25, The permissions were never explicitly given, and there is no clear correspondence after the VRT agent's response in September 2018. New activity on the ticket dates few days ago but nothing is clear. Explicit permissions have always been missing in this case. ─ The Aafī (talk) 18:30, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. The uploader has posted copies of emails to the DR thread that seem explicit, but I'm guessing were never submitted properly. —Tcr25 (talk) 18:32, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There are no specific files listed thought except these two links:
There is some more correspondence in ticket:2018052410012711, however permissions aren't adequate. There is a lot of strangeness. ─ The Aafī (talk) 18:44, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That inaccessible link is the same photo (it pops up in the Wayback Machine and was used in an International Choral Bulletin article about Gohl's death). One of the other photos being questioned, File:Auckland University Festival Choir at the UN.jpg, is in the same Flickr folder as the first link. Thanks for looking into this. In the DR review, I've encouraged the uploader to look carefully at COM:VRT/CONSENT to make sure he can get the proper sort of release for the images. —Tcr25 (talk) 13:35, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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