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Repeated stalking from Chamaemelum
I have filed two complaints on this admin board and got no response. I am being stalked by a banned Wikipedia user Chamaemelum. This user logs in every few days to target historic photographs I have uploaded 2, 3 or 4 years ago.
Examples: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]. These are 8 examples, 3 others could be cited. These are all historic photographs I uploaded in most cases years ago.
There is no valid reason why this user needs to stalk my editing history going back between 2-4 years to make tedious edits to just prove some kind of point and harass me. I have sent emails about Chamaemelum's behaviour to the WMF as this user has harassed me via email. I am requesting that an admin asks them to stop this stalking behaviour on site here. I have asked them to stop but they do not listen. Psychologist Guy (talk) 02:55, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Psychologist Guy: The eight examples you've given appear to be making minor improvements to the information summary and/or licensing fields. There are times that people will see an editor make a common mistake once and will then go through that editor's edits to search for instances when they've made that mistake, so that the content can be corrected. Based solely on the edits, that would appear at first glance to be what this looks like. That being said, you've brought up some fairly serious allegations that would reasonably impugn motive (i.e. e-mail harassment) should this be a personal dispute that crosses wiki lines.
- Are you able to provide a bit more of a history of this dispute, so that the Commons community can better understand what's going on? I'm having a bit of a hard time tracking the EnWiki origins of this dispute aside from the ANI thread, and I'm active on EnWiki, so I can imagine that it might be a bit hard to dig into for those who aren't as active there. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:55, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Psychologist Guy, I did not send any emails to you, or anyone on Wikipedia. I understand your frustration given that you think I am sending you these emails, but this is misplaced. I just checked in my own email, and I can see the IP addresses of senders. You could use this to verify that I am not the sender of the emails so we can move past this.
- Here are the steps, assuming you use Gmail (similar for other email providers):
- Navigate to the harassing email whose sender's IP address you want to find.
- In the upper-right corner of the email, click on the three vertical dots.
- From the drop-down menu, select "Show original."
- A new tab will open showing the email's raw headers / content. In this window, you will see a lot of metadata about the email, including various "Received: from" lines.
- Look for the "Received: from" lines in the header. The IP address closest to the text "by smtp.gmail.com" or similar will be the originating IP.
- Trying this on a random email, I got the IP and the following information: United States, Tennessee, Nashville, ISP: Selligent Inc.
- You should give this IP address information to an admin or WMF so they can cross-reference this against my IP address and location. This would verify that I am not the sender.
- Also, please share the contents of this email if you are able, or at least describe this a bit further. (It seems important; brought up in each of the three ANI posts.) Depending on what the email is, I might be able to provide quicker proof than an admin IP cross-reference.
- The two unrelated users who replied to the previous posts ([8][9]), including an admin, said my actions on commons were "OK" and not "problematic." These are similar to responses to Psychologist Guy's other comments elsewhere: [10][11][12]
- I am actually sorry for how the fixes came across to you since you believed I sent you emails. Those simple edits weren't me stalking you: "Correct use of an editor's history includes (but is not limited to) fixing unambiguous errors or violations of Wikipedia policy, or correcting related problems on multiple articles."
- To me, the following is closer to stalking/harassment than fixing a few minor mistakes:
- Nominating multiple files I created for deletion under improper rationale,
- saying [13] my simple edits are "creepy stalking," that I "obviously have nothing to do," and that my deletion request of a non-public domain image is "wasn't created in good faith" to "target [you],"
- saying [14] that a clear deletion nomination was "out of revenge," and that uploading an example of what a CC tag on YouTube looks like is "harassment,"
- repeating [15] the "in revenge" comment on enwiki, and saying you believe my graphs [16] aren't really my own work while linking to one of these graphs on enwiki.
- Chamaemelum (talk) 05:26, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Red-tailed hawk in short, Chamaemelum is a community-banned Wikipedia user who I had some history with because like many other users I found their disruption problematic. The user was only on Wikipedia for 3 months before being banned but as others stated it was obviously not a new account. You can see from above that they have a lot of experience with Wikis.
- A copyright investigation was filed against them [17] and I volunteered on WP:FTN to help clean up some copyrighted images. Two images were deleted and I was wrong about a graph. I now regret offering to do this because I am being followed by this user in an act of revenge. I am being repeatedly targeted by this user but I did not submit their early uploads for deletion, nor have I gone through their entire editing history, another user submitted some of their images for deletion. I want to be left alone from this user but every few days they are going through my entire editing history here making trivial edits to historic images I have uploaded. This user is not a historian like myself, I have created nearly 400 Wikipedia articles unlike them who was quickly blocked on Wikipedia and had all their edits reverted for copyright and disruption.
- This user does not need to be stalking my editing history from 4 years ago making these type of trivial edits. I have a history with this user so this is obviously not good-faith editing. This is being done to harass me and is a type of WP:POINT behaviour. I have been here since 2019 uploading hundreds of historic photographs and never had a problem with anyone here. I now have this new banned Wikipedia user targeting me who has only been here a few months. It is not acceptable. It is not being done in good faith, I want to be left alone. Psychologist Guy (talk) 09:34, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Chamaemelum: it's easy just to create a fake email account and use a proxy or VPN so if it is you who is doing it then that is the method you would choose. I have an open email address on my Wikipedia account and have received abuse from banned users in the past, it has happened but not for a long time. If you are not sending the emails, the only other user who it might be is Belteshazzar who has been banned on hundreds of proxies who I have had history with. Looking through the writing style of that user they share a lot of similarities with yourself. As noted by others you are not a new user. Belteshazzar is strictly on proxies so it would be a waste of time for me filing a check-user but I am seeing a lot of similarities. I would like to deal with the emails privately with the WMF. I started this section to discuss your repeated following me around on here which is not being done in good faith. You have still not explained why you are doing it. Psychologist Guy (talk) 09:44, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- I don't mind that you deletion requested multiple images I uploaded. I don't consider it harassment, and I hold no grudges at all. I appreciate if someone points out when I make a mistake. I've never looked through your entire history, but I did look at some of your uploads because I noticed a common simple mistake with a few of them. I hope you can understand that this isn't to harass or annoy you. It is also not true that I had "all their edits reverted for copyright and disruption." My enwiki edits were already discussed on enwiki as you pointed out, and I learned and accepted that feedback (slow down aspartame editing, formatting, etc.); though I paraphrased too closely on the "Tayside children's sleep questionnaire" article, there have not been subsequent copyright issues with my writing (e.g. [18]), and even if so that's not directly related to my contributions here on commons.
- With regards to using a proxy, I agree with you generally, but it could still be a good idea to at least check [19] if the IP is a proxy or not. Chamaemelum (talk) 16:26, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Just so I can understand something - how do you know File:Bastian Greshake Tzovaras.jpg is under a Creative Commons license? I can’t see the exact source where you got this from, when I went to the photographers website I don’t see anything that says photos are under a CC license. I’m looking on my phone, so I may have missed something. Thank you. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 09:20, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- Bastian's personal website has a CC0 1.0 indicator. The image has also been uploaded with CC licenses many other times, including on the Creative Commons domain itself. I've updated the file page to make these sources more clear, thanks. Chamaemelum (talk) 17:24, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- Just so I can understand something - how do you know File:Bastian Greshake Tzovaras.jpg is under a Creative Commons license? I can’t see the exact source where you got this from, when I went to the photographers website I don’t see anything that says photos are under a CC license. I’m looking on my phone, so I may have missed something. Thank you. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 09:20, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Psychologist Guy: Thank you for this explanation. If you're able to, would you be willing to forward the emails you've received thus far to
info-commons
so that administrators can take a look at them? — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 02:04, 30 August 2023 (UTC)wikimedia.org
A software change is deployed now as part of the new software version 1.41.0-wmf.24. Please try to delete the files (and the category, if empty). Thanks. Der Umherirrende (talk) 19:31, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
Done @Umherirrender: Wow! It works! Thanks for fixing this. Yann (talk) 20:55, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
Can an admin check this deletion request? I think it was not closed properly. — Chem Sim 2001 (talk) 11:43, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Just going to ping @Materialscientist: and @Alfa-ketosav: . Me trying to give an opinion on chemistry is like me giving my seven-year-old the keys to my truck. GMGtalk 12:08, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
The sorting of Categories with the letter ß - Part II
@A.Savin: , @RZuo: , @Andy Dingley: , @Jmabel: In case you are still interested, please look at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T323868 So the problem has been known for a long time, but the remedy is very uncertain Im Fokus (talk) 12:25, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Rename file
Dear admin, please rename this File:Butterfly eating fruits in Butterfly Farm, Poring Hor Spring, Ranau.jpg into "File:Butterfly eating fruits in Butterfly Farm, Poring Hot Spring, Ranau.jpg". There was a typo on that Hor. Thank you. WAqil (WMYS) (talk) 15:26, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- @WAqil (WMYS), this did not need an admin intervention. I have moved the file for you. ─ The Aafī (talk) 15:29, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- You can click on the move file option under tools. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 09:10, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Vandalism
Can we please have someone block User:2402:800:6305:E1B2:909:604B:8B2D:CC31, they are posting a lot of objectionable messages. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 06:06, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
No empty. Микола Василечко (talk) 06:21, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
Flagged for name of original file
I uploaded https://www.flickr.com/photos/mainedoe/8581085676 which is protected by CC-BY 2.0, and was warned that the original file name was blacklisted. Would this still need to be changed if it's the original file name? Thank you. Pac-Man PHD (talk) 12:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
TTPTuthanh
Upload many copyrighted images. I am I Talk 17:13, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Presumably about User:User:TTPTuthanh. Jmabel ! talk 18:30, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Fix Italian translation in gadget
Hi :) non-technical fix required in a gadget. See request:
MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-Stockphoto.js/it#Please fix Italian bug existing since 2020